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[Brad]

Well that was just for singles. Album sales are actually terrible, it's quite an achievement now to do even 2x platinum with a hit album in Australia (there's obviously the occassional blockbuster though e.g. '21' or 'Funhouse').

I've been saying that for AGES! Thank God theres someone else on the forum who understands this stuff too. Were you ever on the old forum? What was your username? I dont remember you

Insulting to a lot of us, tbh. A lot of us understand. Lol.

Artin

Sorry Artin! I didnt mean it like that hahaha

[JimJim]

Well that was just for singles. Album sales are actually terrible, it's quite an achievement now to do even 2x platinum with a hit album in Australia (there's obviously the occassional blockbuster though e.g. '21' or 'Funhouse').

I've been saying that for AGES! Thank God theres someone else on the forum who understands this stuff too. Were you ever on the old forum? What was your username? I dont remember you

I was on the old forum, but it was many, many years ago (around 2008-9). I've come from the music chart forum UKMix, you can see our write-up of this weeks charts here: http://www.ukmix.org...c.php?p=3738626

[Johnson]

Sitting on Top of the World is #2 in digital track chart (up from #3 last week), and #2 in Australian artists chart (behind Reece Mastin). Which suggests that the song has suffered in physical sales.

[Brad]

Holding on to Top 5 would be supreme. We are two days into the chart now (Friday to Saturday, Saturday to Sunday) and for the moment, the chart seems pretty stable - but it could change.

1. Flo Rida - Whistle
2. Carly Rae - Call Me Maybe
3. Maroon 5 - Payphone
4. Ed Sheeran - Lego House
5. Delta

and I think it will stay like that. Whistle + Payphone are only gonna get bigger as radio play them more and more - Carly Rae will be in Sydney very soon (tomorrow I think) and Ed Sheeran tix go on sale tomorrow which I'm very very excited for. Sure, Delta's got the biggest tv show behind her atm but at the same time, being at #5 is very very good and I'm so proud that this single is doing well - it seems like people are actually enjoying it and its a climber! for once her music is climbing instead of just debuting high and then dropping off.

This song will just continue growing on people to the point where I hope it will go 3xPlatinum which only one of Delta's singles has done (Born To Try). Further to the point, only two other singles have gone 2xPlatinum (Predictable and Lost Without You). So if this song can continue to grow and grow it will eventually become one of Delta's biggest songs. Its Gold on its second week! Thats impressive. And I'm sure it will at least hit Platinum so if she can get 2xPlatinum then its one of her biggest selling songs right there.


Delta's almost 10 years into her career. She's had 8 number one singles, this is her 12th Top Ten hit. She's had 3 #1 albums at a combined 23xPlatinum. Its not about how high the single hits on the charts - she's done that, she doesnt need any more to prove that she is a success. Right now, I feel the best thing for her is for her music to have life. I feel In This Life and Believe Again had life when they would be played on radio a year after they were released - thats a cool thing. I still feel Believe Again got robbed by it being released after the album was going gangbusters. I'm glad it seems they will release the second single before the album is released.

[Mrslivinlife]

Wtf how did reece get to #2 when wasnt that high up on itunes chart and didnt do any instore performances how would everyone else get the single?

[Brad]

Sitting on Top of the World is #2 in digital track chart (up from #3 last week), and #2 in Australian artists chart (behind Reece Mastin). Which suggests that the song has suffered in physical sales.

No one 'suffers' in physical sales. Physical sales suffers all on its own. It only becomes an impact in cases of this week and last week where artists with large local fanbases have instores or signed single offers.

I just found out Reece did a mega-instore in Tuggerah last Friday with Damien Leith and Young Men Society so that wouldve pulled in A LOT of people.

[JimJim]

For SOTOTW, platinum is a certainty, 2x platinum is likely, 3x platinum is a push but possible, 4x platinum is rather unlikely.

If you're going to make comparions between different times periods, it is better to look at the chart run or position on the end of year sales chart, rather than just the cold hard sales. This is because the sales during the 'Innocent Eyes' era were before the singles downturn, the second and third era occured during the downturn and now her fourth era singles will be happening in a healthy market.

A good way to look at it is this - the 40th highest selling single of 2011 sold more than the 7th highest selling single of 2005. Does that mean the latter was more popular? Not neccessarily.

[Brad]

"You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day" hahahaha.

Very interesting JimJim - I did not know that. However certifications were not completely justified back in 2005 - overshipping singles was frequent

[greeneyes]

^ very interesting point JimJim you make there... it is true that things have changed so much over the last few years thanks to the digital era we live in now...

Your point about singles sales now being stronger than the albums is very important to remember this era.. it doesnt matter she hasnt had a number one this time. it is all about staying power.. it looks good for top 5 next week , tho it is early days.. for this song to be a true success , she has to spend a good chunk of may if not the whole month top 10..

[Martin]

Sitting on Top of the World is #2 in digital track chart (up from #3 last week), and #2 in Australian artists chart (behind Reece Mastin). Which suggests that the song has suffered in physical sales.

WOW! I thought if anything the lack of Digital sales would've screwed it up. I'm so darn happy! Delta really has a great chance at sticking around in this digital era, which was my biggest fear!

[FlawedImperfection]

^ very interesting point JimJim you make there... it is true that things have changed so much over the last few years thanks to the digital era we live in now...

Your point about singles sales now being stronger than the albums is very important to remember this era.. it doesnt matter she hasnt had a number one this time. it is all about staying power.. it looks good for top 5 next week , tho it is early days.. for this song to be a true success , she has to spend a good chunk of may if not the whole month top 10..

I agree. These days it seems that it is not about hitting number one for one week and then falling out of the charts like before, its now about consistency. If Delta stays in the top 10 until the start of June, that will be pretty awesome.

[Adam :)]

Just noticed delta has gone back up to $2.19 on iTunes!

[JimJim]

'Starships' is slightly ahead of her now that it has a video and two versions in the top 100, she's down to #6 overall on iTunes.

The SOTOTW video is #5 on the iTunes video chart.

[greeneyes]

'Starships' is slightly ahead of her now that it has a video and two versions in the top 100, she's down to #6 overall on iTunes.

The SOTOTW video is #5 on the iTunes video chart.

Oh i hope she isnt edged out of the top 5.. it is too soon.. i was hoping she could at least make 5 or even hit 4 if it was going really well... still too early yet

[Brad]

'Starships' is slightly ahead of her now that it has a video and two versions in the top 100, she's down to #6 overall on iTunes.

I dont think thats necessarily the case. I mean its close but I'm pretty sure Delta would still be above Nicki combined for this week.

I'm pretty sure the Top 5 is set in stone as I had posted before:
1. Flo Rida - Whistle
2. Carly Rae - Call Me Maybe
3. Maroon 5 - Payphone
4. Ed Sheeran - Lego House
5. Delta

I'd be surprised if I'm wrong but then again I was surprised Reece went Top 3 last week, let alone Top 2.

[Adam :)]

Lakyn from the voice has now crept up to number 3 on iTunes placing ahead of payohone, Lego house and sitting on top of the world at number 6!

[Brad]

^ That wont affect this weeks position as the chart calculates from Friday to Thursday and I doubt from this Friday to next Thursday that it'll stay ahead of Delta...

[Brad]

Whilst I think/hope Delta will be #5 for this week - the signs of Florence + Nicki jumping Delta even tonight are clear.

I'm shocked Delta has only put one week of promotion in for the single - when shes been in the country the whole time. Why not a TODAY show performance? An A Current Affair or 60 Minutes interview? If she was trying to protect her overexposure I'd be all for it, but her Swisse endorsement does not show this...


EDIT: Or not... DigitalSalesData is inaccurate...

[dj030892]

I can't help but think that the song will only be going down from here, unless she does some promotion to get people interested again.

[Brad]

Well Airplay is on the rise so she might have a chance? But I dont understand why Delta's team have seemingly done nothing since the Garden City instore. Too much hope on first week sales perhaps? Anyways...

Lego House is holding on so strongly because of Ed Sheeran tickets going on sale (which I foolishly missed out on) but Delta may overtake it and hopefully Florence can fuck off soon enough (haha). But maybe not since this song is growing heaps on radio...

Big Jet Plane is still rising - #3! So impressive. Carly Rae is in Sydney today but unless she does something big like perform on Dancing With The Stars, I dont think its going to have much impact and her long run on the charts is sure to slow down next week or the week after. Would be great if Big Jet Plane can somehow overtake it and its position at #3 leading to a further downfall.

Whistle + Payphone will continue to rise. Great new songs which are sure to do great on radio.

Then theres the songs that I dont even know are coming that will make a great impact. For Delta's sake I hope theres not many.